Unfortunately, this conversation looks valuable and absolutely necessary. Mr Picciolini is obviously doing some valuable work, and we should be thankful there are people and movements like this trying to counter extremism, so we should be thankful for its posting.

But the much bigger influence; the hidden bad actor of physical network clustering, inherent to profit driven social media, creating, encouraging and facilitating social bubbles, thus divisions, should not be forgotten or distracted from. If that was fixed, perhaps Mr Picciolini’s seemingly formidable task would be all but eliminated.

Indeed without that, the Trump and Brexit phenomena would probably still be fictitious humour; too crazy to become fact.

We should not be surprised, given the profit driven media source of the article, that this was not covered, even though the effect of social media was mentioned in the form of “The internet”.

In a way, this article, by promoting one movement against another, as good as this might seem, is just continuing the profit driven media art of encouraging and promoting division.