There was already tribal war in Ukraine, anyone can see that who wants to see it, we watched around the world as many were burned alive in the Maidan atrocity in 2014, but they were pro Russians, so I guess that doesn't count, or any of the 14000 claimed to been killed in the eight years since the Maidan, before Putin invaded. If we had known that, would we have thought pouring weapons in was a good idea? Should we have known? Why are all sources of media that might have told us been cut off? Even wierder, why has information previously banned by facebook because it was deemed neo-nazism, from the "Asov Battalion" been unbanned, since Putin's invasion? Does anyone care we might be allying with Neo-Nazis? Nope, its against the Russians so all fine. Tribalism at its finest, surely.