Now I guess I understand why you never seem to have seen much importance in my own work, Ray, your perception that climate scientists never talk much about clean energy is about right.

All I can say is its a much bigger problem than scientists are equipped to fix, they need to be able to do multidisciplinary systems analysis, including that which is critical of science itself, in fact critical of the practice of profit, which lies right at the heart of the global warming problem, and actually energy slavery, which we are all functioning in as energy slaves, mostly system-blinded by commodified education, energy-ants, a destructive scourge on the planet, every one of us still living, until the problem system is fixed, or until the planet burns.

The climate problem is just a symptom of the real problem, which is an energy problem.

I don't mean just the energy in fossil fuels, I mean all energy, the energy in money, and the energy we each need to metabolise.

More energy travels by money than by any other means, money is just abstracted energy.

As long as the energy we all metabolise comes extracted from the planet, the destruction, and the heating of the planet continues. Profit is monetised destruction.

Scientists getting busy, putting more and more effort into analysing just the climate problem in isolation, always funded by for-profit entities, is just more extraction of energy, more temperature rise.

This is why clean energy is the only solution.

We can only stop the consumption of energy that harms the planet, by concentrating on the only energy use that is the opposite of harming the planet, use of solar, and we need to do that most effectively by monetising it, providing a path from it to all people, instead of the path that currently exists from all people to energy extracted from the planet.

Get it? Sorry but I have found our conversations increasingly frustrating because this does not seem to be registering with you.