Not laziness John, just impatience ;) But your last point is a fair one, I have to roll with that, apologies, my bad.

On economics, we’ve had pretty much the same economics since before christianity, we might identify things as neoliberalism now, but it was exactly the same forces at play which drove slavery, maybe even created it, in those days as has always driven it, profit and debt, it brought Rome down, it was our business model then too, almost eveyone ended in “debt”, as defined by whoever gained power over us, and the penalty was to submit our lives, and those of our children and family towards payment.

This time it is not just Rome, or even the US, but the world.

Now our penalty is for us and our dependents to submit to living and dying in the street with nothing, whilst our planet is raped, and we can’t blame those doing the raping, with nothing changed, they either do that or let us swap places with them.

On timescales, to me it looks like a very sharp turn approaching, something radically different from what has been seen to date.

It isn’t something that will happen by controlling things in the same way as seen ever before.

In fact trying to control it just prolongs the suffering, it seems. Control, and possession appear to be things close to the source of the problem.

This looks more like something which will occur like a landslide or avalanche, it will start with virtually no warning, and will be very sudden, all over in a few days, hours, or even minutes.

So I agree it could be many more years of suffering, and many, many more unnecessary deaths.

Or it could be very soon, much sooner than most can imagine, with subsequently minimal further loss of life.

Seems to me a key element, the banks, could go with the transition from profit to donation to make everything pretty much painless.

All they would need to do is declare all human debt as an energy deficit to our planet, as it is, therefore all money is free from now on, on the condition that we put all spare towards solar power implementation, the only thing that can pay the real deficit back down.

On the other hand, they could cause pretty much instant existential harm, if they were inclined to keep ramping up the scarcity control, still with the now obviously false claim that it comes from a finite source.

Then, they really would be to blame.

As explained, I don’t have much reason to hope they’ll do the right thing, but they are still humans, just like us, aren’t they?