I hate to say this, but this is suddenly starting to look like a cult.
4B is an extreme view with probably harmful results, the opposite of what all the moderates suoorting it might hope to achieve by it.
The world is going mad, led by moderates.
Its an energy slave thing, to seek to divide folk, as needed to make the population weak.
More division between men and women is not what us needed, we need to get back to a more indigenous view of how men and women should be with one another.
Not doing that will make life far more dangerous for all of us, but especially women, because if physical violence does break out between all people, it's the women and kids who suffer most.
4B appears to want to provoke that violent confrontation.
I am sorry to see you take this line Ray.