I didn't mean or say billionaires Edward, I just meant doomers, who can be rich or poor, in fact we are probably more inclined to be doomers, brow beaten by the system to just lie down and die like nice obedient slaves, when we are no longer useful type thing.

So your question might be out of context. I am not sure the point you are making?

What I've been saying more recently is that profit is the problem, it is the fundamental instrument which necessitates and depends completely on extracted energy, not just fossil fuels but the destruction of anything and everything created by nature. If nature never existed, all there would be on Earth is heat, and we are using profit to systematically reverse the action of nature.

Profit is an energy con, because when money makes money, no one asks where the energy gained in the money gained had to come from, and at what temperature cost, since money is always energy. Only the planet can be conned to give out more energy than was put in. We can't do that con on the sun, because it gives what it gives, all for free, there is no way we can put a little in, and get more back out.

I guess from what you said we might agree there, but it isn't just millionaires who are mistaken in this, in general, its all of us, there seem very few amongst us who are willing to accept we are all part of this unsustainable, deadly system, because we need to be, to try stay alive.

It is up to the money issuers to change this, I've explained why the issue of money has to move to solar indexed stimulus, in order to move with our energy dependence, which is moving from mathematically negative to mathematically positive energy. They might not want to do this, because in doing it they will be handing over power to the people, empowering everyone, freeing everyone to use mathematically positive energy.

The results of that are beyond most of our imaginations right now because we can'r really know it until it is done, but this is the only way to stop, and actually reverse the damage being done to the planet.

Does that make sense to you?