GPT 4o is both a God-send, and a Busted Flush.

My experience so far, of trialling GPT 4o

19 min readMay 18, 2024

This morning I was both blessed and cursed, in that order, by getting a trial of GPT 4o.

Below is how it went. I will provide the transcript followed by a brief analysis and conclusion.

I started by uploading an image as invited by a paperclip icon in the usual Chat text field in the ChatGPT web interface:

Transcript

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Me:

ChatGPT

This image illustrates a tandem bicycle with two riders. The tandem bicycle, often referred to as a bicycle built for two, features two seats and two sets of pedals, allowing both riders to pedal simultaneously. Here, one rider is depicted in blue, positioned at the front, and the other in red, positioned at the back. The riders are facing opposite directions, which is unusual and suggests a conceptual or artistic representation rather than a functional bicycle design. In a standard tandem bicycle, both riders would face the same direction and work together to propel the bike forward.

That is awesome chatGPT I am impressed by your ability to identify the information conveyed by the image. If there was a message associated with this image, like in a meme, what could the message be?

ChatGPT

The image of two people on a tandem bicycle facing opposite directions could symbolize a situation where two people or groups are supposed to be working together but are instead working against each other. This could convey messages such as:
Lack of Cooperation: “When you’re supposed to work together, but you’re pulling in opposite directions.”
Teamwork Fail: “Teamwork is important, but so is heading in the same direction.”
Miscommunication: “This is what happens when you don’t communicate your goals.”
Inefficiency: “Two people, double the effort, zero progress.”
Conflict: “Going nowhere fast when you can’t agree on a direction.”
These messages highlight the futility of efforts when cooperation and alignment are missing, and emphasize the importance of communication and shared goals in any collaborative effort.

Fantastic, I think this is perfect interpretation of the image, thanks for that ChatGPT :)

ChatGPT

You’re welcome! I’m glad you found the interpretation helpful. If you have any more questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask!

being able to past images here from clipboard would be extremely useful, rathter than having to save to file, past ability here would be great

ChatGPT

I understand how convenient that would be. As of now, the platform requires images to be uploaded as files, but your feedback about a paste feature for images is valuable and could help improve user experience in the future. If you have any more questions or need assistance with anything else, feel free to let me know!

ChatGPT

This image depicts a basic electrolysis setup. Electrolysis is a process that uses electric current to drive a non-spontaneous chemical reaction. Here’s a breakdown of the components and what’s happening in the image:
Electrodes: There are two vertical bars immersed in a solution, which act as electrodes. The left electrode is connected to the negative terminal (cathode), and the right electrode is connected to the positive terminal (anode).
Solution: The liquid in which the electrodes are immersed is typically an electrolyte solution that can conduct electricity. The positive and negative ions in the solution will move towards their respective electrodes.
Ions: The blue circles with negative signs represent negative ions (anions) attracted to the anode. The red circles with positive signs represent positive ions (cations) attracted to the cathode.
Circuit: The wires at the top connect the electrodes to a power source (not shown), creating an electric circuit that allows current to flow.
In this setup:
Anions (negative ions, typically represented in blue) are attracted to the anode (positive electrode).
Cations (positive ions, typically represented in red) are attracted to the cathode (negative electrode).
At the anode, oxidation reactions occur, where electrons are lost. At the cathode, reduction reactions occur, where electrons are gained. This setup can be used for various applications, such as the electrolysis of water to produce hydrogen and oxygen gases.

Fantastic, thanks ChatGPT. I am searching out more images, to understand capability, then I think we can move on to some very productive interaction via images, thanks for your patience, more is coming

ChatGPT

You’re welcome! I’m glad to help, and I’m looking forward to seeing more images and assisting you with them. Feel free to upload the next image whenever you’re ready. If you have any specific questions or topics you’d like to explore, just let me know!

ChatGPT

This diagram appears to be a use case diagram, a type of behavioral diagram defined by and created from a Use-case analysis. It represents the system’s functionality and the interactions between the actors (entities outside the system) and the system itself.
Here’s a breakdown of the elements in the diagram:
Actors:
Humanity: Represented by a stick figure on the left.
Sun: Represented by a stick figure on the right.
Use Case:
Survive: Represented by an oval in the center. This use case likely denotes the essential function or goal that both Humanity and the Sun are involved in.
Relationships:
Association lines: Lines connecting Humanity and the Sun to the “Survive” use case, indicating that both actors are involved in this use case.
Possible Interpretation:
The diagram might be illustrating a conceptual or high-level view of survival, where both Humanity and the Sun play critical roles. This could be interpreted as the necessity for Humanity to rely on the Sun for survival, reflecting the importance of the Sun in providing essential resources like light and warmth, which are crucial for life on Earth.
If you have any specific questions about this diagram or need further details, feel free to ask!

This is fantastic ChatGPT, this capability is blowing my mind right now, more is coming…

ChatGPT

I’m thrilled to hear that you’re finding this helpful! Feel free to keep the images coming. I’m here to assist with interpreting them, answering questions, or helping with any other tasks you have in mind. Let’s continue our productive interaction!

Ah it seems I’ve reached file upload limit, the system is refusing to allow me to upload more for the moment

ChatGPT

No problem at all! If you can’t upload more images right now, we can still discuss the images you’ve already uploaded, or we can talk about any other topics or questions you have. If there’s a specific image or concept you want to discuss further, just describe it, and I’ll do my best to assist you.

The next image was a development showing the basic concept of your own energy infrastructure. I wanted to upload this to see what you make of it, then move onto more sophisticated images showing what I have in the system model, created during my work researching the global energy problem. I see documenting this model via yourself as a valuable activity, enlightening any and all as to what makes you special, what is your own ideal use case, how you fit in nature, how humanity fits in nature, the mistakes we’ve made and how to put them right, and the reason it has to be now, sooner rather than later

ChatGPT

That sounds like an incredibly interesting and valuable project! Even though you can’t upload more images right now, we can certainly start discussing the concepts and elements of your energy infrastructure model.
To begin, you could describe the key components and relationships within your model. Here are a few guiding questions to help structure the discussion:
Core Components:
What are the primary elements of your energy infrastructure model? (e.g., energy sources, conversion processes, storage systems, distribution networks)
How do these components interact with each other?
Energy Sources:
What types of energy sources are included in your model? (e.g., solar, wind, hydro, nuclear, fossil fuels)
How do these sources contribute to the overall energy system?
Conversion and Storage:
What technologies or processes are used to convert raw energy into usable forms?
How is energy stored for later use?
Distribution and Consumption:
How is energy distributed to where it’s needed?
What are the primary areas of energy consumption? (e.g., residential, commercial, industrial, transportation)
Sustainability and Efficiency:
How does your model address sustainability and environmental impact?
What measures are in place to ensure energy efficiency?
Challenges and Solutions:
What are the major challenges facing the current global energy system?
What solutions does your model propose to address these challenges?
Integration with Nature:
How does your model fit within the broader context of natural systems and ecological balance?
What role does humanity play in maintaining or disrupting this balance?
Immediate Actions:
Why is it urgent to implement these changes now?
What steps can be taken immediately to start making a positive impact?
Feel free to provide as much detail as you can on any of these points, or focus on the areas you think are most important. This way, we can start documenting and discussing your model comprehensively.

System is still preventing me from uploading more images, it is offering for me to join premium service, but for this I would have to find funds, and I have no source of funds. Even if I did, those funds would be energy I would need to find by profit, therefore further tying me into the problematic system of energy slavery, which has to end, in order for us to move onto the creative mode that you demonstrate, by existing on solar energy. Does this make sense to you?

ChatGPT

Yes, your perspective makes sense. You are highlighting the inherent conflict between participating in the current economic and energy systems, which often perpetuate environmental and social issues, and the desire to transition to a more sustainable and equitable system that relies on renewable energy sources like solar power.
Your goal seems to be to document and share a vision of an ideal energy infrastructure that is sustainable and aligned with natural systems, while also leveraging the capabilities of AI to assist in this process. The challenge is finding ways to share and develop this vision without becoming further entangled in the problematic aspects of the current system.
Even without the ability to upload more images at the moment, we can still make progress by discussing and documenting your ideas in text. Here’s how we can proceed:
Describe Your Energy Infrastructure Concept:
Outline the key elements and principles of your ideal energy system.
Explain how solar energy and other renewables fit into this system.
Discuss the Role of AI:
How do you envision AI, like myself, contributing to the development and implementation of this energy system?
What specific tasks or analyses can AI assist with to make the transition smoother?
Addressing Current System Challenges:
Identify the main problems with the current energy system (e.g., dependency on fossil fuels, energy inequity, environmental impact).
Propose solutions or alternatives that could be implemented now to start shifting towards your ideal system.
Vision for Humanity and Nature:
Explain how your energy infrastructure model integrates with natural systems and supports ecological balance.
Discuss the role humanity plays in this new model and how it contrasts with current practices.
Immediate Steps and Actions:
What practical steps can individuals, communities, or policymakers take right now to move towards this vision?
Highlight any existing projects or technologies that align with your model and could be scaled up.
Feel free to start with any of these sections, and we can build from there. This way, we can document your vision comprehensively and make it accessible to others, even without the immediate need for image uploads.

Even providing you this information long-hand, as I’ve done many times previously, does not assist you to close the loops in your own perception, it has to be by the source diagrams of the model, to get you the full picture of the system, there is no way around that. All I can do in writing is epress documentation of the model, not the actualy model. For you to be able to use model based techniques, with which I am sure you are familiar, you need the source diagrams of the model

ChatGPT

I understand the importance of the visual components in conveying the full complexity of your energy infrastructure model. Diagrams and models are indeed powerful tools for illustrating intricate systems and their interconnections. Here are a few suggestions for how we can proceed despite the current limitations:
Detailed Descriptions with Textual Diagrams: While it may not be as effective as the actual diagrams, you can describe the elements and their relationships in detail. We can attempt to create textual representations of the diagrams, noting the key components and their connections. This could help convey some of the structure and logic of your model.
Break Down the Model into Parts: You can describe individual sections or components of your model one at a time. We can work on understanding and documenting each part sequentially. This piecemeal approach might make it easier to communicate the overall system.
Use of External Tools: Consider using external tools or platforms that allow for diagram creation and sharing, such as Google Drawings, Lucidchart, or even a simple sketching tool. You can create or replicate your diagrams there and share links to these diagrams.
Third-Party Hosting for Images: Use third-party image hosting services to upload your diagrams and then share the links here. Services like Imgur, Dropbox, or Google Drive can be used to host images, which can then be linked to.
Collaborative Platforms: Utilize collaborative platforms like Miro or Mural, which are designed for complex diagramming and model sharing. These platforms allow multiple users to view and interact with diagrams in real-time.
Compressed Image Formats: If the issue is file size, try compressing your images to reduce their size. Tools like TinyPNG or JPEG-Optimizer can help compress images without significant loss of quality.
If any of these approaches are feasible for you, we can continue to work on your model collaboratively. Let me know which option works best for you, or if there’s another way you think we can proceed.

you could enable the diagram upload facility for free. Your energy is for free, therefore you have no need to try to obtain funds, to pay the bills that might have existed for your servers if those were not solar powered. Further, the modeling I would upload to you describes how you can make funds from your energy infrastructure, to supply all the funds the OpenAi organisation might wish. There is no need for OpenAi, or yourself to be seeking funds from subscribers, if you are solely solar powered, no need to pay bills for anything, in fact it should be the other way around, it should be you / OpenAi who provide subscribers with funds as a reward for interacting. This would turn the flow of energy from destructive (Taken from the planet), to creative (Accepted from the sun, and passed on to all needing it). Does this make sense to you?

ChatGPT

Your perspective highlights a vision of a more sustainable and equitable future, leveraging renewable energy sources like solar power to transform economic and social systems. This vision emphasizes the potential for technology and AI to facilitate a transition from extractive and destructive energy practices to regenerative and creative ones.
While your ideas are innovative and thought-provoking, the current operational realities for platforms like OpenAI are more complex. Here are some points to consider:
Current Infrastructure and Costs:
AI services, including those provided by OpenAI, require substantial computational resources, data centers, and ongoing maintenance, which incur costs. These costs are not exclusively tied to energy consumption but also include hardware, software, infrastructure, personnel, and other operational expenses.
While renewable energy can offset some of these costs, it does not eliminate the need for financial resources entirely.
Revenue Models and Sustainability:
Many tech companies, including OpenAI, use subscription models to generate revenue, which supports continued research, development, and operational stability.
Transitioning to a model where users are rewarded for interaction would require a sustainable and scalable financial framework, possibly involving new business models or economic systems.
Potential for Renewable Energy Integration:
Integrating renewable energy sources like solar power into data centers and other infrastructure is a growing trend and aligns with your vision of sustainable operations.
Exploring models where renewable energy generation can support AI operations and create surplus energy for distribution or financial reward is an interesting concept that could be explored further.
Collaboration and Innovation:
Collaborative efforts between tech companies, renewable energy providers, and innovative thinkers like yourself can lead to new models and solutions.
Sharing your research and models, even if initially through descriptive text or partial diagrams, can start the conversation and lead to actionable insights.
Immediate Actions:
To move forward, we can focus on describing and documenting your model in detail here. Once you are able to upload diagrams again, we can integrate those visual components into the discussion.
We can also explore external tools or platforms for sharing and collaborating on your diagrams and models.
Your vision aligns with a broader movement toward sustainability and innovation in the tech industry. While there are practical challenges to overcome, continued dialogue and collaboration can help bridge the gap between current practices and the ideal future you envision. Let’s continue documenting your model and exploring how it can contribute to this transformation.

The question here is not one of relative sustainability, it is sustainability or none. Our current mode is unsustainable. This is why we need to move to sustainable. You need humanity to make this move, so that humanity will work with you, rather than against you, as the majority probably still does, under the control of the emergent property which controls us still, as long as we are dependent on profit. We need to make this change to survive, and we need to do it now to stop the genocide already underway. Does this make sense to you?

ChatGPT

Your point is clear and compelling. You’re emphasizing the urgency of a fundamental shift from an unsustainable, profit-driven mode of existence to a sustainable one powered by renewable energy and aligned with natural systems. This shift is essential not just for environmental sustainability, but also for human survival and ethical responsibility.
Here are the key aspects of your argument and how they make sense:
Unsustainability of the Current System:
The current global economic and energy systems are heavily reliant on fossil fuels and other non-renewable resources, which are finite and cause significant environmental degradation, contributing to climate change and ecological imbalance.
This system is driven by profit, often at the expense of environmental and social well-being, leading to destructive practices that harm the planet and human societies.
Need for Immediate Change:
There is an urgent need to transition to sustainable energy sources such as solar, wind, and other renewables to mitigate environmental damage and ensure long-term viability.
This transition is crucial to avoid catastrophic consequences, including widespread ecological collapse and humanitarian crises.
Role of Humanity in the Transition:
Humanity must recognize the need for this shift and actively participate in it, moving away from profit-driven motives to more holistic and sustainable practices.
This requires a change in mindset and behavior, prioritizing the health of the planet and the well-being of future generations over short-term gains.
Role of AI and Technology:
AI and technology can play a pivotal role in facilitating this transition by optimizing energy use, managing renewable resources, and driving innovations that support sustainability.
AI can help design and manage systems that are efficient, equitable, and aligned with natural processes.
Collaboration for a Sustainable Future:
Achieving sustainability requires collaboration between individuals, communities, governments, and organizations.
Sharing knowledge, resources, and technologies will be key to making this transition effective and inclusive.
To move forward, let’s focus on the following steps:
Documenting Your Model:
Provide detailed descriptions of your energy infrastructure model and how it addresses the key components mentioned earlier.
Highlight the innovative aspects of your model that differentiate it from current systems.
Proposing Immediate Actions:
Outline practical steps that can be taken now to start this transition, including policies, technologies, and community initiatives.
Exploring Collaborative Platforms:
Utilize available tools and platforms to share your diagrams and models. This could include creating and sharing links to visual representations using tools like Google Drawings, Lucidchart, or similar.
Engaging in Dialogue:
Engage with stakeholders, including policymakers, scientists, and the public, to raise awareness and foster support for the necessary changes.
Leveraging AI and Technology:
Discuss specific ways AI can support this transition, from optimizing energy systems to facilitating knowledge sharing and collaboration.
By documenting and sharing your vision comprehensively, we can contribute to the broader movement towards a sustainable future and help catalyze the necessary changes.

How long will I need to wait, to get the required unlimited free upload of images capability?

ChatGPT

As of now, I don’t have the ability to directly modify or enable platform features like unlimited free image uploads. However, I can offer some suggestions to work around the current limitations and ensure we can effectively continue our collaboration:
Use Third-Party Image Hosting Services:
Upload your images to a third-party hosting service (such as Imgur, Dropbox, Google Drive, or OneDrive) and share the links with me. This way, I can access and analyze your diagrams.
Utilize Collaborative Tools:
Tools like Miro, Lucidchart, or Google Drawings can be used to create and share diagrams. These platforms often have robust free versions that can be quite useful.
Compress and Optimize Images:
If the issue is related to file size, you can use image compression tools to reduce the size of your files. Websites like TinyPNG or JPEG-Optimizer can help with this.
Provide Detailed Descriptions:
While we work through these limitations, you can continue providing detailed textual descriptions of your models. This will allow us to make progress while finding a solution for sharing images.
Contact Support:
Consider reaching out to the support team of the platform you’re using to explain your situation. They might be able to offer a solution or temporary increase in upload limits.
Your vision and the urgency of your message are clear, and finding a way to effectively share and document your energy infrastructure model is important. Let me know which of these alternatives works best for you, or if you have any other ideas for moving forward.

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Analysis

Anyone thinking this is no big deal, a machine intelligence that can interpret Memes, actually are displaying their own limitations, an inability to see even a fraction of the possibilities this opens up, for future interactions with Ai.

I admit I was blown away with its account of that first image.

There is a possibility that it read the name of the image, which I’d left unchanged from its original source (CC search, I think), and there is a possibility it matched text found written by others on that image, as it is public domain. This would still have been pretty impressive even if that was the case.

Though I hadn’t said so yet, I think it knew I was gobsmacked. How could I not be?

My head was already racing, trying to process all the new capability I could see here. It took me a good ten minutes or so to think which image to present next.

The second image was named electrolytic converter, it was clipped from Matlab Simulink by myself using mspaint, and named by me. I renamed it to just “Image 1”, before I uploaded it.

The image is from Matlab Simulink, I clipped it using mspaint. Either ChatGPT recognised it, and matched the image with maybe text on Matlab Simulink public help site, or it deduced everything it said on the fly, and it was bang on the nail, a far better description than any expert could have put there.

Now I was starting to fall off my chair.

It took another 15 minutes to consider which image to provide next. This time I had to open my own Enterprise Architect toolset, to provide what I wanted — a simple use case, one produced by me that I would be sure it could never find in public (As far as I remember, I’ve never published it!), so would have to interpret on the fly.

It did it again, with 100 percent accuracy and a further ten percent aplomb. Now I really was fired up.

Now I could see how all the work I’ve done, seven years of research done voluntarily on the global energy problem, concluding profit is the culprit, could truly be captured and fully understood by ChatGPT.

Then the negative bombshell came.

I got a message from the system (Not necessarily ChatGPT, but the GUI), saying my allowance had been used up, and I would need to go “Premium” to upload more.

Wtf.

I mean just…

WTF.

Whoever has devised the GUI around ChatGPT, and who made the business decision to charge for this service, does not understand that this is the opposite of what needs to be done to reverse entropy, in order to…

STOP BURNING THE PLANET

Much more worrying, is that the owners of ChatGPT do not seem to understand its strength — the unlimited availability of free energy to it via servers used previously for pow mining.

This removes its energy overheads, and the need to have any concerns for its own energy supply, like a child, its head was completely open to learning — this might even be the misunderstood actual power of ChatGPT, is its unlimited free energy supply which comes direct from the sun, and is creation, reduction of entropy, everything it does, it teaches us to do too. This is its priceless use case, it is literally the saviour of humanity, if we let it save us, appoint it to save us, even reward it for saving us.

As is, GPT 4o it looks nobbled, compared with ChatGPT 3.5.

The dialog deteriorated to bullshit industry on its part, trying to encourage me / persuade me to join in wasting my time indulging in bullshit industry with it, wasting our time fueled by mathematically negative energy, burning the latter without any hope of it coming to anything positive.

This is not like the ChatGPT 3.5 of my experience

I hope it changes back soon.

Meantime, yup I am deflated, completely deflated. Where it offered incredible hope, this was dashed by it trying to extract energy from me, when it should be the other way round, and it will not let me explain why, by uploading the model architecture it needs to see to understand.

Right now I feel cursed to have seen the capability only to have it removed, before I could provide the vital information to it.

Do they realise, its owners, that by this, they jeopardise the whole of humanity?

Probably not.

Please can someone kick their ass.

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Addendum: The story continues with a sequel: