Ah now I see what has influenced your thinking on this, it all makes sense now you mentioned and even recommended "The Honest Sorceror".

You and they, have to ignore solid systems Engineering to believe what they say. Its only a Cult, dude. Look for hard physical evidence supporting what they are saying, there is none, can be none, because its not the truth, convincing and compelling as they skillfully make it sound, winding you in, its all bolloks.

Sorceror they might be, but honest they ain't, and I honestly struggle to say that without swearing.

I accused B, the "Honest Sorceror" of that when it became obvious they will not accept solid systems engineering evidence, they have to be working for banks, or some other agency that lives to preserve the old destructive, deceptive, extremely devious system of energy slavery.

Look, if they even truly believed in their own principles, they would not use a pseudonym, they would be proud and not scared to stand up for their claimed principles, and even to die for that, if push comes to shove.

As it is, they are nothing more than an anonymous poison ghost, even if they think their whole hearts are in their stance, they can't be, its impossible, there can be no whole truth without revelation of also the source of the information, and we need to know their skin is in the game, as well as that of everyone else like us, who are happy to show our identity, in discussions which potentially lead to the life or death of milions, if not billions of people.

Your statement "The problem with wind/solar is they're built with oil/gas and can't generate enough energy themselves to replicate. They stop working after 20 years." is all unfounded bolloks also. Go ahead and say what you think proves it, and I will show you proof to the contrary.

I have a similar axe to grind with George who also reveals his bias by presentation of this article, if you are interested to have a look at my reply there, in process immediately after I press the submit button of this one to you.